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So the funny thing is I've always wanted to be able to be in front of people, be able to perform, be able to sing songs and do that kind of thing. So in my head, I've always been like - I've totally got, I can do this and all this. But then in reality, whenever I've been presented with that opportunity, it just seems like a different thing is going on. RAZ: When did you first, like, notice that you were afraid to be up in front of people.
I conquered it a little bit. You know, if I am in front of an audience, if I'm playing music every week or twice a week, I do relax and overtime I just kind of settle into that thing. But if I stop for a couple of weeks or a month or longer and when I go back to it, it's like I have to start over. It's always a setback, it's never cured forever. It's never cured forever. RAZ: Joe Kowan, graphic designer by day, folksinger by night. You can hear his full talk at ted.com. Our episode this week - what we fear. In a moment, a freak of nature. A man who fears nothing. Stay with us. I'm Guy Raz. And you're listening to the TED Radio Hour from NPR.
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